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Post by Canuovea on Apr 13, 2016 8:27:28 GMT
Sigh.
Well, her support is strong in the black community.
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Post by Harkovast on Apr 13, 2016 17:31:13 GMT
Wordweaver damn it! You pipped me at the post to link to her complete bizzare attempts at humour.
At this point it feels like she is just trolling to see what she can get away with and still rely on the black vote. First she had a black lives protestor thrown out for complaining about her super predator comments back in the day, then having Bill angrily defend those same comments...and now literally doing kinda racist stand up? Her supporters keep telling me she knows how to speak to the black community...personally I think if I was a black person in one of those southern states that already voted I would feel a bit awkward if I had backed her.
There's still time left for her to have one last go at pushing her luck, maybe a full blacked up minstrel show or a furious N-bomb laced rant? I mean at this stage, why the hell not?
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Post by wordweaver3 on Apr 13, 2016 21:55:17 GMT
There's still time left for her to have one last go at pushing her luck, maybe a full blacked up minstrel show or a furious N-bomb laced rant? I mean at this stage, why the hell not? She could do that without losing any votes right now. In that video she pauses right before giving the black guy a high five. I'm imagining her thinking "Oh, why isn't he wearing the white gloves?"
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Post by Harkovast on Apr 13, 2016 22:27:01 GMT
It blows my mind when her supporters try to claim Sanders doesn't know how to talk to black people. It seems the way Hillary knows to talk to them is "like shit".
Sanders mean while got arrested during civil rights protests in the 60's.
Apparantly the culture in a lot of black american communities is that preachers and community leaders generally tell their supporters who to vote for and everyone kind of votes as a group without really looking into it themselves. Since a lot of these leaders are deep in with the main stream democrat establishment they support Hillary no matter what and will bring in their followers with them.
So yeah, at this point she can basically say whatever she wants about black people (as she apparntly is doing!)
The Clinton campaign has two big weaknesses... 1- Clinton is fundamentally unlikable and the more people see of her and listen to her the less they like her. 2- Cliton has a history of making horrible decisions so the more people look into her record the less they like her.
This is why you find her supporters doing a weird dance of saying how experienced and talented she is, but if you point to any specific thing that she did (bomb libya, invade iraq, lock up an entire generation of young black men etc) then you are drudging up obscure things from the past that were ages ago and don't matter. Her experience collectively is very important, but try to address any one bit of it and thats just being ridiculous.
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Post by demonnachos on Apr 13, 2016 22:38:59 GMT
That culture of voting as the preacher tells you extends to most churches. Churches hold massive amounts of political sway, and their congregation are often just mindless sheep who do/think as they are told.
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Post by Canuovea on Apr 13, 2016 22:44:36 GMT
That's not entirely fair.
However...
I know someone who was forced to go to church while visiting relatives, and they had a guest priest come in from one of the nearby cities. Dude literally railed against everything this person held dear, claimed Canada was a Communist nation who was arresting priests for saying things, and, on top of the homophobia, racism, and so forth, managed to tell everyone not to vote for Obama.
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Post by Harkovast on Apr 14, 2016 0:25:53 GMT
Canuovea they are onto you!
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Post by Canuovea on Apr 14, 2016 1:11:44 GMT
Alas, some secrets cannot be kept forever, it is the way of things.
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Post by wordweaver3 on Apr 14, 2016 2:12:40 GMT
Talking about Hilary's experience as making her more qualified to be president is like saying a school janitor is more qualified to teach because he sends so much time in schools. Hilary's "experience" is mostly to be around people who have political talent. For all the time she spent in congress there is no legislation that bears her name. For the time she spent as secretary of state she has no accomplishment she can point to. She spent her entire career afraid to do anything for fear that will hurt her chances to become president. She fails to take the lead in hopes that she can become the leader. That sorta makes her poor presidential material.
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Post by Harkovast on Apr 15, 2016 20:14:47 GMT
Clinton and Sanders had a debate yesterday. How did it go? Well apparantly Clinton did so badly, that her supporters are accusing Sanders of bullying her. No I am not joking.The sexism here astounds me. Not sexism from Bernie, but from Hillary supporters. They seem to think women are delicate flowers who will cry if you disagree with them. Sanders apparantly should be running a campaign where he doesn't criticise her, because criticising women is sexist. Honestly, if you think Hillary is so weak, so worthless and so timid that they are getting bullied during debates...how do you think she will stand up to Donald Trump? A man who shouts sexist insults with glee? Or what about if she has to face down Putin? Or the House of Saud? When Putin speaks over her and insults her, will her supporters rush to tumblr to defend her? Will left wing whiners make youtube videos on what a sexist meany he is to pick on their poor, helpeless little president? I didn't watch the debate, but based on this response from her supporters, I can only assume she got DESTROYED.
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Post by Canuovea on Apr 15, 2016 20:24:09 GMT
Oh boy, see, this is why some feminists make taking Feminism seriously a tad bit more difficult for everyone. Well, one of the many reasons.
Apparently, though, Clinton was the one talking over Bernie the most, and going over her allotted time. May have to watch.
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Post by demonnachos on Apr 15, 2016 21:58:44 GMT
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Post by Harkovast on Apr 15, 2016 22:32:01 GMT
demonnachos well at least you could be certain they would cover all possible ideological positions.
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Post by demonnachos on Apr 16, 2016 0:56:35 GMT
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Post by Harkovast on Apr 16, 2016 11:58:13 GMT
I knew she did badly when the media coverage was saying it was very even and too close to call. That's pretty much a sure sign that she bombed when thats the best her media chums can think to say.
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