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Post by Canuovea on Feb 19, 2016 22:45:23 GMT
Hah, oh yeah.
Sadly, I think most of the weapons I actually have wouldn't really be used like that. Because in that case I'd really only have access to decisive weapons. I might use the shield I suppose, but I'd have to pair it with probably the stabby head of the boar spear I have. Though I suppose I could go for non-lethal attacks with that, for the legs or arms, since it cuts well. Actually, I would pair it with the Polypropalyne gladius trainer as well, which is actually probably the best option as it is essentially a club. I have the gladius machete, but, why bother? Its not likely to be very effective for defense or anything else.
The smallsword is the other option, but it is the version which has no edge and only a point. I could defend with it, I suppose, but a foe would quickly realize it was an unedged weapon and that would force me to use the point, which would be rather likely to murder someone even if hitting the thigh.
Or I could use the fibreglass cane with the steel head. That would basically be a mace.
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Post by demonnachos on Feb 19, 2016 23:21:22 GMT
I wouldn't worry about their safety, which is one advantage to being a yank. I quite literally am within arms reach of a weapon in my bedroom at all times (spear by computer, an all steel tool hammer by the door, one corner is LOADED with sharp and point things, and on my nightstand resides my khopesh with a shield leading against the stand). If they have a weapon and are willing to fight with it, I will be willing to fight with mine too. I don't suspect a guy with a knife or a bat would really be too keen on fighting a sword and shield fellow, especially if they see the silhouette of the khopesh in the dark (she is a mean looking mama).
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Post by Canuovea on Feb 19, 2016 23:59:03 GMT
I dunno, I don't like the idea of actually killing anyone. I mean, with the weapons I have here I could if necessary. But why would I if I could avoid it? If someone broke into my house I'd be far better equipped to deal with them than they would me, short of bringing a gun, so why not act with restraint?
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Post by Horsie on Feb 20, 2016 0:01:01 GMT
I've got a bottle of rubbing alcohol on my desk, if I spring out of bed and sprint to the other side of the room fast enough I could probably snatch that up and spray someone in the face, or throw a ceramic coaster or a box of toffee at them.
I am prepared for the worst.
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Post by Canuovea on Feb 20, 2016 0:07:13 GMT
Its kinda funny, in a way, that the guy with enough guns to outfit a small village somewhere is less likely to use a weapon in self defense. And is probably a better more responsible weapon owner than the two of us, who actually have weapons at hand from where our bed is.
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Post by demonnachos on Feb 20, 2016 0:10:41 GMT
They are in my house and swinging at me with a weapon. Their intent could be just to ward me off so they can flee or they could be trying to kill me. Why chance it? Besides, with how bad the US legal system can be it is much better to kill them on your property. If they leave they are perfectly capable of suing you on top of you being at risk for armed assault charges. Killing them is the safest bet legally.
I will admit I am a bit of an exception when it comes to life/death. I haven't got any qualms with killing nor a fear of dying. Even if I was wounded I wouldn't stop until I was physically unable to continue the attack. The deeper recess of my mind aren't exactly the model of stability though.
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Post by Horsie on Feb 20, 2016 0:38:54 GMT
All of my guns are in a couple of safes downstairs, and none of them are loaded, so they're not much help.
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Post by Canuovea on Feb 20, 2016 0:40:29 GMT
I dunno, its just not worth it to me.
Then again, I don't think we can really know how we will react in a situation like that until we are in one (and hopefully we are not). All I know is that the only time I was confronted with a weapon and threatened with it I was totally calm and unconcerned... though that might have just been me not fully grasping the situation.
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Post by wordweaver3 on Feb 20, 2016 9:03:38 GMT
My home defense item of choice at the moment is my Taurus model 82. It's loaded plus two speedloaders next to it. 18 rounds of 125 grain SJHP .38 Special +P at the ready.
I don't train to maim.
I used to keep the Taurus 608 loaded, but I don't have any speedloaders for that plus I figured .357 Mag had too high a chance to do collateral damage with the thin walls of my home.
Anyway, dragged my cousin out to the range so we could play with the UZI. It shoots fairly well, but the sights are a friggin joke. I'm not usually one for a laser but I think that one needs it. The trigger also has the longest reset I have ever experienced making it difficult to shoot quickly. I don't know what the hell they were thinking putting a trigger like that on it, the whole point of the gun is to blaze away.
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Post by Canuovea on Feb 22, 2016 21:29:25 GMT
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Post by wordweaver3 on Feb 23, 2016 1:34:17 GMT
He makes a good point about the law allowing you to use reasonable force, even disproportionate force, but denying you the ability to implement such force.
There can't always be a handy implement lying around to defend yourself with.
Really, what's the difference if someone attacks you and you happen to notice a section of rebar on the ground which you use to fend him off or if you have a baton and do the same thing? The end result is the same.
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Post by Horsie on Feb 23, 2016 8:45:06 GMT
Simple, if you're carrying something for self-defence then you're obviously a bad person looking for trouble.
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Post by wordweaver3 on Feb 23, 2016 18:19:44 GMT
That makes police bad people.
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Post by Horsie on Feb 23, 2016 19:30:59 GMT
I've heard that said before. I actually saw something on Facebook last year where some people were calling for police to be treated something like fire services; they shouldn't patrol, instead they should remain in their stations until a call comes in and then respond. I don't even want to think of what the response times would be like.
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Post by wordweaver3 on Feb 23, 2016 20:14:31 GMT
Having them sit around in a building and wait for a call would probably lower the cost of a police force considerably, but part of the appeal of having police is that they might be there when you need them. That chance is part of what keeps criminal activity in check.
If a bad guy knows there is no way there will be any police in an aria for 20 minutes after a 911 call is placed that gives them a lot of time to do what they want and get out of the aria. If they can prevent a call from being placed at all their time is infinite. There's no chance that a patrol will happen to be driving by and think: "Hmm, these guys look suspicious. Let's talk to them". If a police officer does happen to go by chances are that he's already on a call and can't stop to do anything.
What's more there wouldn't be anything to stop people who love to drive like jackasses from doing so. Drunk drivers will only get caught after they've caused an incident.
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