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Post by wordweaver3 on Jun 13, 2016 23:46:42 GMT
Having continued issues with the Mosin stock. The paint won't dry completely. After several days it's still slightly tacky feeling. I'm pretty sure that it's still seeping a bit of cosmoline. I'm gonna have to strip it down again and make more effort to de grease it. I'm worried that doing so is gonna destroy all the gluing and filling I've worked so hard on.
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Post by Horsie on Jun 14, 2016 7:53:47 GMT
I don't really think so. They're basically lining up the rifle on the target at the start and pumping rounds through it when the wind is right. I don't doubt for a second that it takes a lot of skill and knowledge to put a rifle like that together and load the cartridges they use, but the actual shooting seems pretty detached from any other shooting sport I've seen.
Then again, serious benchrest shooters strike me as a weird bunch. I remember reading some posts on a benchrest forum a while ago and these guys were saying that they'd replace the barrels on their rifles after about 2000rnds, when the group "opened up" to something like 0.3". I guess since the sport is basically all about getting the absolute smallest group possible that makes sense, but still... I just don't quite get it.
That'd be a pain in the ass, but if there's still a lot of cosmoline in the wood you might'nt have much choice. What method did you use to remove it? I've never actually tried to really get all of the cosmoline out of a stock, so I'm not sure what the best way to do it is.
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jun 14, 2016 8:44:18 GMT
It looks like a testing range at a factory. Where the guys spend hours every day shooting rounds to test ammo reliability or rifle functionality and the human element has been removed completely. Looks like work rather than an actual sport.
I used oven cleaner on the stock. I thought it worked really well but what probably happened was I removed all the cosmo from the few surface layers and after a few days what was below oozed up. What I should have done was left it in the sun for a day and cleaned it again to make doubly sure I got everything. Or at least as much as can be gotten.
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Post by Horsie on Jun 14, 2016 8:56:28 GMT
Yeah, it doesn't look like much fun, and frankly I wouldn't be interested in shooting if it wasn't fun.
I heard wrapping it in paper towel and leaving it in the sun works well, the paper towel will soak up the cosmoline as it seeps out.
Now I'm on a buying spree; I'm waiting on a sling for my Kar98K (a reproduction of the WW2 German sling with a sliding buckle to adjust the length), a Mauser cleaning kit in a metal case, a sight hood for my M48, and I just placed an order for a Korean War bayonet and scabbard for my M1 (my rifle is Italian, so the bayonet and scabbard aren't from the right country (being American), but they're from the right era).
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jun 14, 2016 9:28:12 GMT
It's kinda fun to seek out and acquire those little items and add ons. Looking for those things must have been a huge pain before the internet.
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Post by Canuovea on Jun 14, 2016 9:47:35 GMT
Jesus, its like collecting Warhammer models, but more functional.
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Post by Horsie on Jun 14, 2016 15:23:32 GMT
I don't even want to know the kind of hassle it would've been. Chances are I wouldn't have been able to find this stuff since we don't really have a lot of stuff for M1 rifles in my country.
The nice thing about this bayonet is that it's not too big, it's actually something I could keep on my belt when I go to the range.
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jun 14, 2016 19:05:23 GMT
You're allowed to carry a knife at the range?
Alright, I don't think I can get that stock any cleaner than I have it right now. I got it back to bare wood, used up the whole can of oven cleaner, and left it in the sun. Still getting a tiny bit when I wipe it down with paper towel, mostly around the buttstock where the wood is thickest, but I don't think it will be enough to ruin my paint again.
On the up side it gave me a chance to redo my filler so it should look a lot smoother when I paint it this time.
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Post by demonnachos on Jun 14, 2016 20:38:23 GMT
Why couldn't you carry a knife at a range? I mean knives aren't nearly as effective at making living things not so living as a gun after all, and my rifle has a fixed bayonet so I can't really not take it to a range while not taking a dagger as well.
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jun 14, 2016 21:44:56 GMT
I'm picking on him cuz he lives in one of those countries with a lot of rules that don't make sense. Seems like one they would have is you can't carry a knife to a gun range.
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Post by demonnachos on Jun 14, 2016 21:57:00 GMT
Tis odd indeed.
Question, anyone have any idea what exactly qualifies something as a "military-grade" weapon? I've seen that phrase a few times recently I can't get an answer on what it means. Everything from full-auto assault rifles, SMGs, semi-auto pistols, revolvers, semi-auto full-size rifles, bolt-action rifles, caplock rifles, flintlock rifles/muskets, matchlock muskets, halberds, spears, swords, axes, daggers, bows, and even various improvised clubs have all seen use by various militaries throughout human history so they are all military-grade. What exactly qualifies something as "military-grade" if everything has been used in battle?
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jun 14, 2016 22:32:44 GMT
I've always assumed it means that the item in question is as the military would use it or did use it when they used it. That's not always necessarily a good thing. Often times "military grade" would be considered low quality by general consumers. Typically serviceable, often durable, but not ideal.
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Post by demonnachos on Jun 14, 2016 22:40:26 GMT
So by that measure a Henry Repeater would be fine but an 1853 Einfield wouldn't be legal despite the Henry being VASTLY superior? That also means my bronze khopesh wouldn't be legal but because the AA-12 hasn't been adopted by any military (As far as I know) it would be perfectly fine.
Is this just another take on "Assault weapon" which is so purposefully generic it means nothing so it might as well mean everything?
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jun 14, 2016 23:06:29 GMT
"Military Grade" isn't even always associated with weaponry. There's military grade flashlights. Military grade canteens. Military grade pencils. Vehicles. Underwear. Tools. Sunglasses. Cameras. First aid kits. Etc.
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Post by demonnachos on Jun 14, 2016 23:28:28 GMT
The specific phrasing was "military grade weapons" which is why I was mostly banging on about how shit like my bronze khopesh would qualify.
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