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Post by wordweaver3 on Jun 18, 2016 11:35:04 GMT
Classicfirearms.com has a few of em for around 350 and at that price I don't think they're in great shape. They'll prolly be sold out soon. They don't come up for sale too often in the states and when they do folks snatch em up.
The thing is I'm slowly getting priced out of the surplus market. With everything including Mosins on a steady climb in price and the heyday of surplus stocks long behind us I don't think there are gonna be too many more old rifles getting added to my collection.
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Post by Horsie on Jun 18, 2016 22:11:26 GMT
Yeah, I'm willing to drop a lot of money on stuff I want, but it has to be stuff I really want. Which is a lot of stuff. I'm currently (slowly) working on the AR build. When that's done I might save up for either a Valmet, which is basically a Finnish hunting rifle based on their military rifle (mechanically I think it's a bit of a cross between an FN FAL and an AK, except the Valmet is legal and those two aren't); Or a FAMAE .308; The finish on the FAMAE isn't as nice though (look at the weld holding the rear sight onto the receiver), but they're still pretty sharp, and I hear they work well. You can get them with a rail mounted to the receiver for optics as well, that's the version I would want.
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Post by demonnachos on Jun 19, 2016 4:37:45 GMT
An AK-FAL?
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Post by Horsie on Jun 19, 2016 4:42:39 GMT
Something like that, yeah. They're supposed to be really good rifles, although I'm sort of leaning toward the FAMAE; the original Swiss 550s series rifles are better, but those are only available in 5.56mm, the Swiss experimented with a .308 version but never put it into production, the Chileans did.
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Post by demonnachos on Jun 19, 2016 4:46:32 GMT
I prefer .308 myself. I like big guns and I cannot lie. You other brothers can't deny.
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jun 19, 2016 8:47:21 GMT
Yeah, I'm willing to drop a lot of money on stuff I want, but it has to be stuff I really want. Which is a lot of stuff. There's always something. I keep thinking I have most everything I really want but when I start to think about it I can come up with lots of things I need... er, want. Both those rifles are pretty nice and I'd be more than happy with either one, but I'd prolly go with a PTR 91 if I had to go with a .308. I'm thinking I should finally pull the trigger (so to speak) on a TT pistol. One of the gun shops has had a very nice one for quite a while now. It's either a Romanian or a Yugo variant. I can't remember at the moment, though if it was a Yugo M57 I probably would have already bought it. 7.62 Tokarev is pretty damn cheap right now, about the same range as 9mm, and I think it would be fun to shoot. Prolly should never have let that CZ 52 slip through my fingers.
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Post by Horsie on Jun 19, 2016 14:38:32 GMT
@demon; they're both .308 actually, although the Valmet is also made in 7.62x39mm and .223Rem, but those are pretty rare.
I wish I could get one of those rifles here, most H&K rifles are illegal. I saw one at a gun show one time, but I would have needed a special license to buy it.
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Post by demonnachos on Jun 20, 2016 2:10:23 GMT
I know, I was just saying I prefer .308 rifles over 5.56 or 7.62x39.
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Post by Horsie on Jun 20, 2016 3:12:30 GMT
I quite like 5.56mm myself, it's a really good round although it does have some disadvantages for shooting at longer ranges. The biggest reason why I'd prefer the .308 FAMAE over the 5.56mm versions available here is that I just want a battle rifle. Right now I have my Garand and SVT-40, so I'd really like to add another full-power military semi-auto to my collection.
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Post by demonnachos on Jun 20, 2016 3:41:27 GMT
Nothing wrong with 5.56, but I have always favored highly accurate battle rifles over more spray and pray assault rifles.
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Post by Horsie on Jun 20, 2016 3:53:07 GMT
Yep.
Still, I'm looking forward to completing my AR15 build. I'm still waiting on the barrel, they said it would take a few months to have the blank shipped from the US, and a bit longer to have it machined to my specifications and fitted to my BCG, I like the fact that it's going to be about the same length as my Garand and probably a few pounds heavier.
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Post by demonnachos on Jun 20, 2016 7:03:20 GMT
You like chunky rifles?
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Post by Horsie on Jun 20, 2016 15:22:41 GMT
I just don't find myself impressed when I'm at the range and someone is talking about how they did this and that to shave a few ounces off their rifle here and there to get it as light as possible. So... really this is kind of a "fuck you" to them.
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jun 20, 2016 16:35:33 GMT
I don't mind light as long as I'm not sacrificing durability or reliability to get it. I've picked up ARs before that were so light I'd be afraid to shoot them.
Just won an 8 inch barrel for my Dan Wesson on eBay. 250 bucks. Plus it's the same shroud style as my 6 inch (plain rib, standard cut) so it won't change the ascetics when I swap them.
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Post by demonnachos on Jun 20, 2016 21:20:58 GMT
I don't mind a chunky rifle, nor a chunky sword. There is a limit to how chunky it can be though. A good sword needs a bit for front heaviness to it for cutting, a rifle needs it for recoil. Too much and too little are where problems reside.
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