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Post by Horsie on Jun 24, 2016 8:09:27 GMT
Yeah, a better mount might be in order. What kind of range are you using it at?
The revolver looks really good.
Is there really such a thing?
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jun 24, 2016 8:40:01 GMT
Dan Wesson revolvers had 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, and 15 inch barrels at one time. Though the 12 and 15 inch are no longer made, but CZ-USA still manufactures the rest of em. Really if you want a barrel that long you may as well buy a rifle. I only had a 20 yard range, so really sub 1 inch groups aren't particularly impressive. But it is compared to how shit it shot before with the worn out bore. Cutting off the end of the barrel made a world of difference. Getting 5 rounds to touch on paper at any range pleases me. I've got another mount picked out, but it'll set me back 50 bucks. The scope I put on it seemed to handle the recoil just fine though. I'm also gonna need a riser on it now. I'm not sure if I'll bolt a block of wood onto it or buy a strap on riser.
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Post by Horsie on Jun 24, 2016 8:43:26 GMT
I stand corrected.
Tape and a chunk of Styrofoam? I saw a guy at my gun club who did that, didn't look very nice.
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jun 24, 2016 9:18:55 GMT
I'm thinking I'll pick one of these up in black. They're pretty cheap. Or I could mock something up with a piece of wood or pvc.
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Post by Horsie on Jun 24, 2016 17:40:48 GMT
Those look pretty good, it's too bad you can't make use of that mag pouch though. Hmm... actually, what if you mounted our M1 carbine under the barrel like a masterkey? Found a place on the other side of the country that has a Bushmaster A3 target rifle for about 1K US. I could easily get a couple hundred for the barrel around here once I get my custom barrel in (the one I ordered is better), after that I could take my time swapping out parts and would still have a rifle that shoots pretty well to begin with.
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jun 24, 2016 19:07:53 GMT
Hmm... actually, what if you mounted our M1 carbine under the barrel like a masterkey? On my Mosin? Well, for one I'm not a fan of underbarrels. For two I haven't worked out all the issues with that M1. It still has feeding problems. That one will probably be my next project. Gotta pull it apart and hunt down what's wrong with it since I've eliminated the mags being the problem (I think). Might just be something with the springs.
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Post by Horsie on Jun 24, 2016 19:42:27 GMT
But imagine, you could have a rifle attached to your rifle, and if you wanted to go all out you could attach a pistol to the M1, and if the pistol has a rail you can stick a little bayonet on it! Speaking of scary guns, I finished fitting the trench mag to my "Sturmmauser" It looks rather awkward, and it probably will be firing from a bench unless I use a taller rest, but firing offhand I can grab the mag like a vertical grip.
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Post by demonnachos on Jun 24, 2016 19:52:59 GMT
What is it with you two and silly looking guns? You should combine your powers and add a pistol grip and large mag to a bolt action, and a red dot sight and other "tactical" things.
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jun 24, 2016 19:59:32 GMT
I won't be happy until it looks like this. That mag looks neat. It's a 20 round, right? Hooray for loopholes!
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Post by demonnachos on Jun 24, 2016 20:10:35 GMT
Needs an AK and an MP5 stitched to it as well.
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Post by Horsie on Jun 24, 2016 20:12:48 GMT
Steady up! What you're looking at is an 8mm rifle with a 25rnd magazine! 196gr, 3300J of energy at 100m!
Not going to stick a pistol grip on it though, it has a semi-pistol grip already, which is what I like on a bolt-action.
@wordweaver; yep, 20rnds in the mag extension plus 5 in the existing internal mag, follower seems to tip a little more than I would like though, I think I can modify an MG13 follower to work in it though.
My biggest concern is how well it'll feed on the last few rounds.
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jun 24, 2016 21:07:54 GMT
I've heard the trench mags were somewhat unreliable which is why they didn't see widespread use. I'm surprised they never went with 5 or 10 round extensions since it probably wouldn't be difficult to make them, the follower wouldn't have to push against as many heavy rounds, and it would make them less awkward from a rest.
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Post by Horsie on Jun 24, 2016 21:25:43 GMT
That would make more sense, even if they only increased the capacity to 10rnds total it would put the rifles on par with the Lee-Enfield, which (as far as I know) had the largest magazine capacity for a standard-issue service rifle until after WW2.
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Post by demonnachos on Jun 24, 2016 21:46:54 GMT
I never understood why the M1 Garand had its weird setup. Why didn't they just make it load like an SMG?
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Post by Horsie on Jun 24, 2016 23:00:11 GMT
At the time they just didn't design rifles with detachable magazines, it wasn't something they did. For one there were concerns that soldiers would lose magazines (the Lee-Metford and I think the early Lee-Enfields were originally issued with a mag that was chained to the rifle), and given the magazine capacity of most rifles at the time it was just as easy to simply use a charging clip (like the Mauser or Lee-Enfield), or an en bloc clip (like the Garand or Carcano). Plus, clips are cheap to produce.
En bloc clips were sort of popular at the time too, and it's a pretty slick system since you don't have to dick around with pushing the cartridges off of the clip to load the rifle, you just shove the whole thing in, and the clip ejects (or falls out, Carcano and Mannlicher rifles, among others, just had a slot in the back of the magazine floorplate so the empty clip would drop out when the last cartridge was chambered).
SMGs would be a nightmare to load that way though, imagine trying to load a 20 or 30rnd mag with a charging clip during a fight.
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