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Post by Horsie on Jan 7, 2015 18:41:36 GMT
With a barrel that long and heavy it probably has next to no muzzle climb.
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jan 8, 2015 7:29:36 GMT
I bet it wouldn't be a huge challenge hitting targets at 100yds with that. With a barrel that long you can practically hit the target with the muzzle. Add the extended rear sight and you got a tack driver. Would love to shoot that one. Last month a girl that works at the gun range showed me a vid of her shooting a .500 s&w with a 4 inch barrel. I was really impressed with how well that 5 foot nothin' girl handled the giant handcannon with the crazy short barrel. I don't know if she actually hit the target, but she handled that recoil like a pro.
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jan 8, 2015 7:41:06 GMT
Found a vid from a guy with a Iver Johnson similar to mine. Different size barrel, but basically the same. He even shows how you're supposed to unload it with no ejector.
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Post by Horsie on Jan 8, 2015 11:19:39 GMT
I'd be nervous firing a .500 S&W.
That makes sense, I never would have thought to use the cylinder pin like that.
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Post by Horsie on Jan 8, 2015 14:28:23 GMT
This is why you don't try clearing a blockage by firing the weapon again, and again, and again.
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jan 8, 2015 17:22:05 GMT
How the hell does that happen?
Even if he's shooting low powered .38 specials they shouldn't have any trouble clearing the barrel. Maybe he was just shooting primer loads?
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Post by Horsie on Jan 8, 2015 17:49:08 GMT
I don't know; it could just be me, but it looks like the bore is slightly wider near the last few rounds.
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jan 8, 2015 18:01:43 GMT
That's a barrel bulge caused by pressure build up. A symptom of but probably not the cause of what happened.
That's something you want to keep an eye out for when buying used firearms.
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jan 8, 2015 18:05:00 GMT
The barrel also looks bent, but that might have happened when they were trying to dislodge the block later. At some point they gave up and just cut it open.
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Post by Horsie on Jan 8, 2015 18:11:28 GMT
It could be that he was using weak reloads. One got stuck, maybe the next one moved it but couldn't push it out entirely, and then the rest of them just built up behind it.
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jan 8, 2015 18:14:46 GMT
That's kind of what I was thinking. Could have be exacerbated by poor gun care. Didn't clean his barrel and build up + low pressure rounds caught up to him. Found another one.
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Post by Horsie on Jan 8, 2015 18:32:24 GMT
I'm kind of surprised that someone would do that though.
If I had a round that didn't leave the barrel it's probably because I had a squib load (because I clean my stuff really well), and I'd notice that because it didn't sound or feel right. There's no way these guys didn't notice something was up, at least after the second round got jammed, but they kept firing anyway.
It's scary to think these people have weapons.
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jan 8, 2015 18:44:27 GMT
Probably due to lack of experience.
This actually happened to me once. Granted, not with an actual firearm. I had a pellet gun that one of the pellets got lodged in the barrel and all of the sudden I was like "Man, I can't hit shit!". Took me a few to figure out what was wrong because for one I was 9 years old, and for two it's hard to tell if a pellet gun is firing or not. It was a real pain in the ass to clear the 10 or so lodged pellets, but we managed to eventually.
If you notice that both of these were revolvers, so even if there was a blocked barrel there would still be a significant concussion after each shot from the gas escaping around the forcing cone. Probably much more than normal. And inexperienced person would say to themself "Well, it went BANG." while an experienced person would go "That recoil was all wrong".
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Post by Horsie on Jan 8, 2015 18:50:12 GMT
True.
Still, it shouldn't take you long to figure out how your gun should feel and sound when you fire it.
We have mandatory safety courses here, and one of the major things they push is that you should inspect the bore if the recoil feels different or it sounds different.
That being said, just because someone's taken a course doesn't mean they've learned anything; I damned near shot someone in the back of the head with a rifle when they wandered in front of my firing position.
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jan 8, 2015 19:00:38 GMT
Never underestimate human stupidity.
I was at an outdoor range where they call "cease fire" and "commence firing". The rangemaster called "cease fire" and we all went down to check our targets. We were putting up new targets and--
*BOOM!*
Some jackass sat back down and started shooting with people downrange.
The rangemaster threw his ass out on his ear after a good deal of screaming at him.
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