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Post by tiberia on Feb 15, 2015 5:17:33 GMT
I am thinking of trying out 40K when I get paid. I haven;t tried it before because... JESUS CHRIST THE COST!
But I have binged on 40K lore lately (using 1d4chan). So Now I want to try it out. Just going to get one squad of guys (around $30. JESUS CHRIST!). if It's fun, Great. If not, then the models are still nice and painting can be fun.
Looking at either Space Wolves, or Tau.
Any 40K players here you can tell me stuff I need to know?
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Post by frostwolf on Feb 15, 2015 5:35:58 GMT
I can't say I've ever gotten into it. I've seen people play it when I went to Magic tournaments, and I've mostly read up on it through TvTropes. If I ever did play, I'd probably try the Orks.
Or I'm messing up games. Sorry that I'm not helpful.
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Post by Canuovea on Feb 21, 2015 1:59:52 GMT
Tau?
There's all you need to know about the Tau...
Space Wolves, I'm not sure.
I have a bunch of Eldar, but I haven't really played that many games, certainly not at the store. However, you might be able to play a game at a Games Workshop location. See if they do those kind of preview games. Bring a friend, I suppose though? I'm not sure how it would work over there.
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Post by zaealix on Feb 21, 2015 3:21:45 GMT
*tilts head*
I'm slightly in favor of golden dude here-shoving away melee and not getting into it...Blech! It might be pragmatic, but the whole 'controlled by the Etherials'+'no melee' thing...If they're bound to serve the Etherials and it's all about those guys, then it's kinda like they're basically leeching off all the saps and suckers who want to make the galaxy a better place for their own good.
As for the melee thing?
I don't much like the way war is in real life, and I feel like the focus on guns and ranged combat contributed to that-too reminicent of leaders going to war for their own personal desires condemning millions to die and horrible scarring to the landscape...
Not to say horrible things aren't possible with melee but it takes much more guts to face an opponent who can very well kill you if you mess up. In melee, generally the strongest and the most skilled survive. With guns...I feel like it's all to easy for you to just get caught with your figurative pants down and it's game over.
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Post by Harkovast on Feb 21, 2015 18:10:17 GMT
The rules are terrible.
Deliberately terrible.
Gamesworkshop deliberately unbalances the game by making each new army stronger than the previous ones to encourage people to buy new models.
Also when they bring out new army books, they deliberately make new models way over powered so you have to buy them, then in the next eddition render those models lame and make a new over powered model you need to buy.
Games workshop are a really unpleasant company that do a lot of shady practices (getting fans to contribute loads of ideas and content to blood bowl, keeping the game alive when GW effectively abandoned it...then serving those same fans with threats of court action if they didn't take everything relating to blood bowl down off their sites.)
The games are WAAAAY too expensive as well.
There are plenty of more interesting games, plus cheaper and better models available from other manufacturers.
Give 40K a miss is my advice.
(And also save money for the awesome Harkovast card game! Coming soon, folks!)
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Post by tiberia on Feb 22, 2015 4:03:08 GMT
TOO LATE
So I have about 15 space Wolves now. Did a basic game tonight. Got curb stomped by some Grey Knights, which was no surprise. Was fun, seemed like fun people.
Got Very lucky. the guy who taught me didn't want his wolves anymore and offered me 5 models, and a CODEX for $20. I had no cash so instead We decided on a trade. I buy a thing around $20-30 for him. In the end I payed for half of an imperial guard codex for him.
So for $25 I got a (used) $50 codex and $20 worth of models. So a pretty good trade. And later he taught me how to play, great guy.
I had bought my own wolves the other day as well. So 15 models total.
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Post by Canuovea on Feb 22, 2015 4:08:10 GMT
Grey Knights are OP. As they say, you know.
Go find some Dark Eldar to crush.
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Post by zaealix on Feb 22, 2015 4:54:41 GMT
Two thoughts come to mind-
1. Could a game like 40K be played by post, if you guys had a virtual map of sorts to work with?
2. Does anyone else think Harkovast with all it's races would work really well for this sort of game?
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Post by Canuovea on Feb 22, 2015 4:57:42 GMT
Hmm... maybe?
I've always seen Harkovast as a bit like the Total War series.
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Post by tiberia on Feb 22, 2015 5:42:11 GMT
Storm bolters. They all had Storm bolters. They get two shots at any range. So that was 20 shots from one squad, and 10 from another. That's a lot of dakka. And this was a small 500 point game. He was teaching me so he held off the really nasty stuff. Storm bolters were the easy mode. Grey nights may just be OP.
Still had fun learning though.
My army consists of a wolf lord, 6 blood claws, and 8 Grey hunters.
My plan is to either-
eventually buy another box of wolves and a drop pod. the drop space wolves on things I dislike
OR
Buy Wolves. actual wolves. lots of wolves
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Post by Harkovast on Feb 22, 2015 14:49:42 GMT
The Harkovast minatures game?
Might be a little outside my budget at the minute, I'm afraid.
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Post by Harkovast on Feb 22, 2015 14:51:56 GMT
If you want to get into the game, by things second hand because GW will gouge you on the price every chance they get.
They charge £3 for 5 cheap little plastic flying bases.
A little nothing part that is just a plastic disc and a plastic stick...
When I have large amounts of ships I want to base for BFG, that is just them taking advantage and trying to milk me for cash.
This is why I refuse to buy things from that company any more....
Also the rules are shit and a lot of the models are shit these days as well.
Look up the Grey Knight "dreadknights".
Space Marine baby carriers to the rescue!!!
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Post by Canuovea on Mar 16, 2015 0:55:51 GMT
Personally, I loved the Dawn of War series of games though.
Needed some Tyranids in the original though. That would have been perfect.
The more I think about it, the more I realize that if I ever did this again, I'd go with Dark Eldar. Their warriors just look so neat.
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