Grim Derp- Age of Shitmar

Wait, so you the player are supposed to dance, toast, and talk to the fucking game pieces? Are you yanking my chain?

There's no way I could pay this bloody game even if I wanted to; I can't dance, I don't own a fucking goblet, and you couldn't pay me enough to talk to a tiny plastic man (who is probably screaming while he uses his oversized weapon).

Just to address some of Canouvea's points: 



Getting players to be immersed in a game is the end product of a good game. When your last dwarf passes his 5th save in a row and kills the entire orc unit, both players are invested, remembering the time when that brave warrior won the day. Orc players may yell "WAARGH!" when using Ghazgull's 'WAAGH' ability in 40k naturally, because they find it fun.

Players refuse to use dice that roll a 1 continually "because it is cursed", Players call their Units cowards when they run away from a terrible dice roll and are glad when they die "they deserve it"

That's one of the reasons people play these games, to be immersed. It happens naturally if the rules are made in such a way. Otherwise we would all play Chess and be more detached. People paint and convert their own armies, you take a certain pride and shame in their achievements and failures - which is silly but also part of the immersion of the genre.


I think the issue is, they made it inside the paper of the rules, like a tacky party game that forces your uncle to put a shoe on his head, rather than be actually funny. Forcing funny is rarely a good thing, and if the players are naturally funny themselves they don't need rules like these. The rules often have really flavourful descriptions which are actually pretty funny. But tacking on "Dance on an imaginary horse for +1 to hit" is just so forced its lame.


This isn't really true One of them gives rewards for holding a drink, another for having the biggest beard and one involves you insulting your opponent in real life. Its just a crapshoot of nonsense that you have to perform.



In this version you don't have to take Units from your own army list, you can take whatever models you want from your collection. The distinction between the armies is barely a thing anymore.


Aside from MTG doing half of these things this in a clearly labelled joke set that you aren't really meant to play, then yes I suppose this is innovation.

No, MTG clearly labelled Unglued as a joke, GW didn't say anthing, just released these rules. Let me put some context to these rules and what they represent...


Okay, so the last edition of Warhammer was 8th Edition. It didn't do particularly well financially for GW, and the rules were pretty weak. The community made an 8.5 ruleset that is generally considered more playable.

GW then made 'The End Times', a new global campaign where they released loads of big armies and models plus tons of books. People spent a huge amount of money on these - the Nagash model selling out really quickly (It was £65).

At the end of the 'End Times' the Warhammer world got blown up. Half of the factions had been removed from the game or formed together as one faction - rendering a lot of armies background wise eliminated.

Now, GW doesn't talk to it's fans, doesn't have an internet presence and the fanbase freaked out. Players who had armies that hadn't had their rules updated for a long time had, in the background had their faction literally wiped clean and in some cases the entire race wiped out. THEN the whole world blows up and the Warhammer world is gone. No Empire, no Ulthuan or dwarven kingdoms, nothing.

Then we hear loads of 'rumors' on the internet of 9th Edition Warhammer coming, and it's going to be a big new thing. what we get is Age of Sigmar. Age of sigmar is a skirmish game, with 4 pages of rules and the game now has no points values for anything. You are meant to just play with whatever you want.

Warhammer was previously a mass battle wargame with many units and large scale tactics with a tournament scene.

Along with new rulesets, GW always releases the rules for old models to use under the new rules. The rules they released for these armies were full of jokes and nonsense rules - with no comment by GW, just posted on their website.


I don't play Warhammer, but I can see why someone who spent £65 on Nagash a month ago probably doesnt want to have to play a party game to use him.

On the other hand, these rules look fine.

www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/age-of-sigmar-compendiums

And free. No need for new codexes! And I don't actually see any new models for most of these races.


I don't know, I don't see why anyone would need to make a fuss, it seems in good humour to me.

Edit: Red Ned mentioned a joke section. But apparently they aren't actually in a joke section. I found one for the Elves, and it seems kind of funny to me. You can't take this stuff seriously.

...I WANT to say they're trying to go for an Epic Spell Wars-type approach where you have to be in character and RP but...
Some of those, the Slanesh one in particular, seems kinda pushing it a bit too far.

Fantasy was dying, and this is better than the nothing that they'd get otherwise.

Besides, nobody is forcing you to use the silly rules. If both players don't care about it, then they don't have to use it.

And I don't see why I'd need to spend money, unless I wanted more models, they literally give you the rules for free. I've already downloaded them all out of curiosity.

It amuses me that people complain about how companies don't innovate, but as soon as they do, they proclaim doom and curse them. It depresses me, however, when it happens in politics, which it does all the time. In this case, I see these as attempts to work in some form of RPing or such, as Zealix says. Maybe some of it goes too far, but, for instance, the Dragon Host rule is kind of neat. You have to remain totally dignified or arrogant, not smiling etc during the hero phase. To me that is a neat kind of thing to consider.


Also, the encouraging facial hygiene point was a joke.

Canuovea if you think that kind of rule is good, you have a completely different view of what these kind of games are supposed to be from what I have.
Having my elves grow weaker because I laugh...what do the elves think happened? Why does me wanting to laugh when I play games with my friends make immortal elf warriors weaker?
Also, while it might be funny one time...when you have been playing for a while and your opponent goes "HAH! You laughed!" nad that makes you lose the game...suddenly you wont think its fun anymore.

The fact I need to errata the silly things out of the rules to play properly is not exactly a great start.

But if it appeals to you, go nuts with it.
There is a guy where you have to pretend you have an imaginary horse, and get a bigger bonus if you talk to the horse.