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Post by Horsie on Apr 25, 2015 4:13:07 GMT
Clearly Quin-Tain is the KitW, in deep cover.
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Post by Canuovea on Apr 25, 2015 4:15:17 GMT
Well, it seems to be an attitude the Wizards take for themselves. An interesting point of similarity is all.
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Post by StyxD on Apr 25, 2015 16:54:24 GMT
One can wonder, how does a country based on being evil-evil supports itself.
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Post by Canuovea on Apr 25, 2015 16:56:37 GMT
Magic and slaves? I mean, they Priests of the West are basically slaves living in communes.
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Post by Busterdrag on May 8, 2015 15:50:55 GMT
Wheeee, I made an impact. Honestly though, I guess my love for Dark Fantasy kinda showed me that there isnt a black or white, mostly its black, grey, lighter grey and maybe a few speckles of white that can be easily tarnished in dark fantasy worlds like Lordran, Ferelden or Midland (anyone here read Berserk? I think Hark may have. :V) Well, its at least now official by the word of god (Hark) that the KITW is a literally evil being. Maybe not a god, or devil, since so far we've seen lots of supernatural beings, but no gods. Sure, every race HAS a religion and gods, but like in Lordran...we don't ever see real gods, and the gods we do encounter were just beings, mortal or otherwise, that were empowered by a force (the Lord Souls and First Flame) to turn them into (Demi-)Gods. All the other gods like Velka or Allfather Lloyd are only mentioned in Lore, but never actually seen, so they may not exist at all (Same with the Maker in Dragon Age.) Another good point was the whole "He could be a god, and the only god, and basically create a objective morality from there by saying HE is good". For one, heres the thing, a thing Spoony brought up in his Counter Monkey videos on alignement and such. Nobody really sees themselves as evil. You don't get up in the morning and be like "Im gonna do some fucking evil shit today mwahaha and then my balls will eject pure malice to celebrate the occasion!" People that are like that though, honestly and unabashedly are probably not sane, to some degree at least. Like the Joker. Lex Luthor doesn't think he's evil. He thinks Superman is an honest threat (which he is) and that he also keeps Social Darwinism and mankinds evolution back (as do all those other cape wearing assholes), because why would humanity need to get stronger and evolve when they have a potential god as their protector. Think about it. The other point is what Canuovea brought up...what if there is only one god, and he is evil. But he's evil for a good reason. Or well, a reason that makes sense. If any of you read Berserk, maybe, at some point, you beheld the (now forbidden and locked away) chapter that shows the possibly only god in the world of Berserk, the being that the God Hand work for. The Idea of Evil. The Idea of Evil is both the manifestation and well...concept/idea/Sum of all Evil in the world of man, as well as some sort of collective unconscious of mankind and its suffering. It basically sets in motion, via his God Hand and other apostles, a neverending plot to bring suffering into the world. Why? Well, heres the catch, it was born from the simple question of "Why does this happen?" "Why did my neighbor rob me?" "Why did that guy rape and stab me?" "Why are these kids forced to fight for a living and kill and die before reaching their teenage years?" "Why is there such evil in the world?" The idea of Evil is both the reason, and the answer to why there is Evil. It was created by mankinds desire to find a reason, an explanation for all the bad in the world, and as such it formed to provide that, and possible incite more, if only because its own existance, or maybe even that of the world (who knows) depends on that fact. Maybe the KITW is kinda like that.
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Post by Harkovast on May 8, 2015 21:51:14 GMT
The KITW is also a total dick.
Busterdrag get yourself signed up with a forum account and start earning those precious Harko points we all crave!
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Post by Canuovea on May 9, 2015 2:25:21 GMT
I'm pretty sure that the KITW doesn't think he's evil. But he is.
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Post by Horsie on May 9, 2015 2:31:27 GMT
Whether that's down to arrogance or a very misguided attempt to bring order and stability to Harkovast is another thing.
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Post by Canuovea on May 9, 2015 2:54:30 GMT
Or he's just so supremely entitled that he believes he's in the right.
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Post by Horsie on May 9, 2015 3:24:57 GMT
Exactly, arrogance.
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Cawing an' Bawwing! Thats the Gryphons life.
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Post by busterdrag on May 9, 2015 18:20:00 GMT
The KITW is also a total dick. Busterdrag get yourself signed up with a forum account and start earning those precious Harko points we all crave! Ohhhh, what can I get for those fancy points? :V
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Post by TempestFennac on May 9, 2015 18:30:15 GMT
Forum badges from the Harko-Store (they can be invested in the Stock-Market or Bank too; links for all those are found at the top of the page).
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