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Post by wordweaver3 on Jun 20, 2015 6:19:20 GMT
The thing about marriage is that at one point (in the US, at least) it was mostly a social and/or religious contract. It was an agreement between you, your spouse and, if you wanted to bring him into it, God.
Then white people started marrying black people and the government said "well, we can't have that, can we?" and they instituted the marriage license. Now, remember what a "license" is. It's permission to do something that is normally illegal. So they made marriage illegal without the consent of the government.
That is sick.
All that aside. From a purely realistic perspective the license does offer you and your spouse protection under the law. It protects your combined wealth, it protects your children, it protects each other. From that perspective you really should give it some thought, Tech. Cuz right now you're just a live in boyfriend.
Also you won't have to go through that "she's my wife but we're not married" explanation anymore.
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Post by Canuovea on Jun 20, 2015 6:25:02 GMT
Actually... living together in Quebec long enough and the government will mostly consider you married for legal purposes.
For me the only convincing reasons to get "married" officially are those legal benefits and, of course, a big party. Though I'm not normally one for parties, the idea of putting all those families together should be great fun. By that of course, I mean "a bloodbath" but... those are fun, right?
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Post by Tech on Jun 20, 2015 12:40:07 GMT
after 4 or 5 years the Quebec government sees you as legally married if both names are being put on the tax returns and stuff, so I think by now that might actually be the case because it's been like five years.
as for the none wedding no priest thing, my mom got mad at one of my sisters friends for doing that so I'm sure me doing that would cause some kind of hellfire.
as for custody both our names are on her birth card thing and I believe Canada now views equal rights of fathers as parents who can raze kids alone, though her parents don't like me and have voiced me being english as one of their problems with me, but if looks could kill I think I would of dropped dead when our daughter first started learning to talk and she mainly spoke English. not like I'm forcing an only language household, we had decided I speak to her in English and her mother speaks to her in French, it's working well so far because she does speak both rather well I think, though we chose to put her in an english school (which also caused problems) which she starts this year.
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Post by Canuovea on Jun 20, 2015 19:26:11 GMT
Awesome with getting her to be bilingual. They say that kind of thing is actually quite good for brain development. If they need any more convincing, you can tell them a teacher (kind of) says that developing two languages at once is not detrimental at all when done right, and can in fact be highly beneficial. At least, so say the research and articles they've had me read.
In my case, getting certain members of my family into a Church or near a priest would be... a bad idea. So I can use that as an excuse for why you'll never see them get me into a religious marriage ceremony. And there is also the joke that if I walk into a church, I catch on fire. If my father does, the church catches on fire.
This is, of course, not true, as I was in a Catholic School for two years of my life (they had a bus) and we had to go to Church on some days. I found it to be a valuable experience with pretty good people all around, and definitely worth a little discomfort.
My father... well... he has a bad track record with religious institutions.
And then there is the fact that my mother's side of the family are Scottish Protestants... so it really would be far easier to just not bother with religious ceremonies all together as nobody would agree, even if I were to put aside my own dislike of the idea.
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Post by Tech on Jun 20, 2015 22:04:54 GMT
I gave up on church as soon as I wasn't forced to go anymore which was when I moved out, wife's in the same boat as me on that front, church and religion seems to of had the same effect on us in that we both grew to hate it.
back on the subject of Quebec for a bit because it's kinda good, we don't have to pay a water bill all we have to pay is electricity.
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Post by Canuovea on Jun 20, 2015 22:10:15 GMT
It helps to be on the same perspective when it comes to that.
That is actually pretty great. I'm a little jealous.
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Post by Tech on Jun 20, 2015 22:50:47 GMT
Yeah, Quebec does have a lot of great things going for it
Cheap Schooling
Cheap Beer
No Tax On Liquor
No Water Bill
but then it has some bad shit
Higher Taxing
Anti-English Laws (not strictly on english)
Language Police
Separatists
it's a lot of bullshit in the end
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Post by Canuovea on Jun 20, 2015 22:57:10 GMT
Its the last three that annoy me most. Separatists themselves are alright, I guess, as they've got a right to express themselves, but language police and anti-English laws just start to sound... well... fascist.
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Post by Tech on Jun 20, 2015 23:02:20 GMT
I know, it actually scared me once when I explained Language Police and some of the Language Laws to some Americans I met on a trip their first conclusion was "that sounds like what the Nazi's did to the Jews before the holocaust" now of course those are very different things but it's scary when that's what people conclude
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Post by Canuovea on Jun 20, 2015 23:04:36 GMT
They're clearly terrified of having their culture subsumed by the "English" one. So, "logically" they have to attack other cultures and languages first!
And yeah, it is pretty terrifying. Eventually, though, I suspect Quebec will come around.
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Post by Tech on Jun 20, 2015 23:08:26 GMT
most people I've met of my generation don't seem to care about the whole "save our language" thing that the generations before them had, a few have even voiced how it hinders them because just knowing french means they are basically trapped in Quebec and can't go anywhere else in Canada.
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Post by Canuovea on Jun 20, 2015 23:19:10 GMT
Well, aside from New Brunswick. But that attitude means there is hope. Sure, they shouldn't have to assimilate, but they should make an effort not to actually persecute people who speak other languages!
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Post by Tech on Jun 20, 2015 23:22:23 GMT
well the language targeting is Quebecs way of assimilating people that come to quebec or are not french into being french or make it so hard on them they are forced to leave
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Post by Canuovea on Jun 20, 2015 23:24:56 GMT
It is kind of ironic. I mean, it isn't very "treat others as you'd like to be treated" is it?
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Post by Tech on Jun 20, 2015 23:32:10 GMT
yeah it's ironic indeed. I think they just don't want to be the next Louisiana, but even Louisiana still has a French culture
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