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Post by wordweaver3 on Apr 20, 2019 17:41:51 GMT
tell everyone the story of Luke Skywalker and that inspires the galaxy to rise up against the first order
So basically they'd be doubling down on the ending of TLJ? That's so fucking stupid I hope it happens.
I also heard there was a rumor going around that Sheeeeev will only be in this as a hologram that teaches Kylo how to be evil. Like Palpatine at one point took time out of his day to produce a how-to/clickbait vid.
"Top 5 reasons to be a Sith!"
#5: Black is always in style!
#4: No homework, ever!
#3: Evil laugh anytime you want!
#2: Red fuckin' lightsaber, baby!
#1: Your action figures actually sell!
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Post by Harkovast on Apr 20, 2019 19:04:53 GMT
Yes, the leak I heard also included Sheeeeeev just being a a hologram that teaches kylo.
It sounds both safe and super unambitious and super lame. So basically it sounds like exactly what I would expect JJ to produce.
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Post by StyxD on Apr 20, 2019 19:06:35 GMT
Right so apparently the plot will involve the first order ruling the galaxy and Rey claims there is a secret weapon that can stop them that they have to go looking for. Could be. That's how Mass Effect solved their problem with the second game in the trilogy basically bumbling around and advancing fuck all. Having said that, I loved Mass Effect 2. We don't know what the secret weapon is but it turns out its a bit of the original death star that has a transmitted that lets them tell everyone the story of Luke Skywalker and that inspires the galaxy to rise up against the first order Honestly… one of the theories seemingly accepted among fans of TLJ is that detractors of the movie didn't like it because Luke was different from what they wanted to see. Maybe it's an attempt to appease by making Luke be so badass that he can destroy the First Order by simply having existed in the past. Wait… does it mean that people in the Star Wars universe will be saved by watching the Original Trilogy? The meta-narrative is strong with this one!
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Post by Harkovast on Apr 20, 2019 19:14:14 GMT
StyxD yeah the media meta thing is great. The star wars universe is saved...but nostalgia for the original trilogy.
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Post by Harkovast on Apr 20, 2019 22:28:43 GMT
Well at least this guy likes it-
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Post by wordweaver3 on Apr 20, 2019 23:46:46 GMT
Are we sure he's not jerking off to a porn?
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Post by Harkovast on Apr 21, 2019 1:12:24 GMT
The full version he says hes watching star wars. Though I swear to God he says he has tissues nearby. IN CASE HE CRIES! HE MEANS IN CASE HE CRIES!
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Post by wordweaver3 on Apr 21, 2019 3:29:03 GMT
You know what's annoying about all the new Star Warz trailers?
Every single one of them starts with heavy sex breathing.
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Post by Canuovea on Apr 21, 2019 8:41:43 GMT
Actually the whole hologram thing is rather well established in Star Wars lore. Both Canon and Legends. Some of it got really fucking stupid, especially Legends.
If they go that route it would be far preferable to actually Bringing Sheev back, which would be incredibly stupid.
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Post by Harkovast on Apr 21, 2019 11:59:10 GMT
It's no win either way.
If he comes back for real, that's a pathetic act of desperation that undermines the previous films for a shit payoff. If its a hologram the trailer is a cheap bait and switch to gets bums on seats.
I've come around that i really like calling him Sheeeeev now.
It sounds like steve, which makes me imagine hes someone's mate in the pub.
"Alright Sheeev! Get the drinks in, mate! You still building those Death Stars?"
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Post by Canuovea on Apr 21, 2019 18:19:33 GMT
You might be underestimating the Holocron. Sometimes they are more or less "possessed" by the past owner, meaning, of course, that Sheev could both be a hologram and be more interactive than just being a hologram.
Nonetheless, I'm not super keen on it.
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Post by Harkovast on Apr 21, 2019 18:47:32 GMT
So its like evil AI computer Sheev. Yeah it still sounds awful.
Also while its possible, it kinda undermines what we were told before, that Snoke turned Kylo. Now its going to turn out it was this holocrome and Snoke really didn't do anything.
It's not contradictory (people telling us that earlier could have been misinformed) but its not very satisfying.
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Post by Canuovea on Apr 21, 2019 19:29:50 GMT
Well, no, it seems that Kylo goes and finds the Holocron after the whole Snoke thing, right?
Because if Kylo just found the Holocron before the whole sequel trilogy began then that would be fucking terrible.
Right?
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Post by Harkovast on Apr 21, 2019 20:02:16 GMT
The leak I heard is that it is what orignally turned him. Just a leak though, could be wrong.
A lot of people are saying the Emperor will be a red force ghost and fight Lukes blue force ghost.
There is no way this resolves that isn't shit.
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Post by StyxD on Apr 21, 2019 21:21:05 GMT
Maybe they'll lift an idea from Legends and retcon Snoke to be an imperfect Emperor clone?
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