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Post by Harkovast on Sept 27, 2016 21:45:38 GMT
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Post by wordweaver3 on Sept 28, 2016 0:09:21 GMT
The best way to critique an industry is to press your boner up against an unsuspecting young lady.
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Post by Horsie on Sept 28, 2016 8:14:38 GMT
Can't believe that publications were acting as if she was the one who was out of line.
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Post by Harkovast on Sept 28, 2016 17:07:23 GMT
Renard to make you feel a little better, I should point out that The Sun is one of the lowest tabloid rags in the UK. It's owned by Rupert Murdock and pushes right wing propaganda that sometimes slips into outright bigotry. They once claimed there was a secret "gay mafia" controlling the British Government. Yes really, that actually happened.
Being utterly low and disgusting is just business as usual for The Sun.
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Post by Horsie on Sept 29, 2016 7:47:32 GMT
Right, I forgot they were cunts.
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Post by Harkovast on Oct 1, 2016 20:46:52 GMT
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Post by Canuovea on Oct 1, 2016 22:23:29 GMT
Ah, radfems.
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Post by Harkovast on Oct 1, 2016 22:36:38 GMT
She's actually quite proud of her rad fem status. She thinks aiming for equality is missing the point. They need to be aiming for women's liberation. I dunno how one excludes the other, but there ya go.
In the comments she does this really annoying thing where when someone points out why shes nuts she just goes "Thank you for your comment but I disagree." Well thanks for expanding on your point of view! That realy cleared things up.
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Post by Canuovea on Oct 1, 2016 23:13:56 GMT
Yes, radfems tend to be pleased to be radfems. It isn't like being a racist where there is usually an implied stigma, even within the group itself (how many racists say "I'm not a racist but..."?).
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Post by TempestFennac on Oct 2, 2016 5:22:50 GMT
I'm not a racist, but I like to use the phrase before making comments which clearly aren't racist in an attempt to mock the people who follow that comment up with something offensive. Speaking of that, I'm not sexist, but I can see her point on some of these issues. On the other hand, could the lack of women in the media and politics be because women are less likely to go for jobs/qualifications which are relevant to those career types? Also, bringing up man-spreading hardly gives her credibility.
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Post by Canuovea on Oct 2, 2016 6:12:36 GMT
Certainly not all people who use the phrase "I'm not racist, but..." are racists... but a lot of racists sure do use it!
Here is the thing. If you ask "are women just not going into those fields/jobs/etc?" Then you also have to ask "why?" Now, some have said it is just because women are genetically predisposed to not going into those jobs, just, you know, because genetics and the inherent womannyness or whatever. I... I don't see that. To me its quite often clearly a cultural thing. And even if it isn't obviously a cultural thing, people have said so much stuff is "genetically/inherently woman stuff or not woman stuff" so often, and often wrongly, that I just look at that kind of statement and go: "Huh, maybe, I guess, but... doesn't seem necessarily so."
Seriously. They say that pink is just naturally a woman's colour. I've heard people actually say things like that. They were saying the same thing about blue at the turn of the 19th century.
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Post by TempestFennac on Oct 2, 2016 7:54:42 GMT
I see it as being a matter of personal choice in this day and age, at least over here. I know what you mean about culture though.
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Post by Canuovea on Oct 2, 2016 8:00:39 GMT
Culture will effect personal choice. So, yeah, they're choosing it, which is good. But on the other hand, that doesn't mean there isn't something cultural at play. At least we've gotten to the point where there are few (if any) overt rules against women or men doing certain jobs.
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Post by Harkovast on Oct 2, 2016 14:37:40 GMT
It becomes hard to draw these lines when you get really far into it. Everything we do is affected by social preasure. Its social preasure that causes me to go to work andget a job. That expectation isn't natural or intrinsic, its how society works. It's possible that we dont even have free will, we are just slaves to instinct and unseen social preassures giving that illusion.
Clearly differences exist between genders, but so do societal preassures, so at what point someones actions are a free choice and at what point they are being pushed by external forces is very hard to judge when you get right down to the individual cases.
All we can true is to keep an open playing field and keep in mind that even if trends exist, applying trends to the individual is intrinsically inaccurate and unfair.
Tempest Fennec your posts are too long! I think you are manspreading your mansplaining words all over my man forum, you man! Man man man.
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Post by TempestFennac on Oct 2, 2016 17:07:28 GMT
Hark, if it's a problem I could try posting as one of my female D&D characters, but that would probably come across as even more awkward. Being serious, that's a good point.
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