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Post by wordweaver3 on Jan 14, 2015 20:10:59 GMT
Has kind of a "duck and cover" feel to it. Something that is mostly pointless but gives the kids some sense of security in an insecure world.
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Post by Canuovea on Jan 14, 2015 20:21:08 GMT
Canned goods? Throwing canned goods at someone armed with an assault rifle?!
Next thing you know, we're going to be asked to kill them with teacups or something!
I'd rather just have a sword!
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jan 14, 2015 20:56:32 GMT
I wonder if this will give rise to banning canned goods and teacups in schools.
I always wanted to carry a sword at school, but for some reason they frowned on the idea.
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Post by Canuovea on Jan 14, 2015 20:59:51 GMT
Yeah, I don't actually think that weapons have any place at school. Definitely not in the hands of teachers.
But if I had to pick a weapon to deal with an attacker... and I had a choice between a sword or a bunch of canned goods... I'd probably take the sword.
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jan 14, 2015 21:03:23 GMT
I've long been an advocate of just banning the archaic system that are schools.
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Post by Canuovea on Jan 14, 2015 21:10:06 GMT
Because home school is better, look at the genius Andy Schlaffy, who was produced by the home school system!
Also, schools often result in a baseline set of accepted facts and norms, like evolution, which is the work of the devil.
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To be entirely honest, it depends a bit on the style and methods and such of the school and teachers. If all schools did was hand students assorted facts about the universe/country/history, then I would agree with you because we now have this fact database called the Internet which they all know better than we do. But schools are supposed to do more than that. There are skills, perspectives, bloody philosophy, that schools should be getting students aware of.
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Post by Horsie on Jan 14, 2015 21:49:25 GMT
There'd have been no way for my parents to teach me anyway, they worked too much for that.
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Post by Canuovea on Jan 14, 2015 22:44:00 GMT
Yeah, I think that school at least gives those whose parents don't have time to, or are incapable of, teaching skills and such to a certain level a chance.
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Post by Horsie on Jan 14, 2015 23:05:27 GMT
They also would've had trouble teaching me a number of subject even if they'd had the time to teach me.
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Post by Canuovea on Jan 14, 2015 23:44:37 GMT
I have learned that teaching some of these things isn't easy. Aside from the theory and practice methods involved, based on everything from the specific subject to research on developmental psychology for children, I also have a history degree. So you need a certain level of knowledge.
But I am starting to think that the Greeks had a really good system... well... minus the sexual aspect obviously. The mentor relationship between one knowledgeable adult and one child is a very effective one for teaching. It allows for time to get to know your teacher and establishes understanding of techniques and such. If teachers were basically individual tutors it might be better, but not particularly plausible.
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jan 15, 2015 4:37:10 GMT
I think the sexual aspects were what made the mentoring program so attractive to the adults involved.
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Post by Canuovea on Jan 15, 2015 6:08:41 GMT
Fun fact, Socrates (Plato?) suggested that the best thing to do in that situation was not have a sexual relationship. The other characters in The Republic were surprised by this.
Plato -> Not a pedophile. Apparently.
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jan 15, 2015 16:01:15 GMT
"Not screw our students? How will they ever learn anything?"
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Post by wordweaver3 on Jan 15, 2015 20:58:55 GMT
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Post by Horsie on Jan 15, 2015 21:09:52 GMT
I'd take anything The Washington Times says with a grain of salt, they lean heavily to the right, in fact it was founded by the leader of the Moonies specifically to be a right-leaning rag.
Having said that, it does look that they're right, although the guidelines are to avoid offending Jews as well.
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