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Post by Canuovea on Oct 19, 2015 4:49:17 GMT
Oh, but not all of them believe it is perfect. Revelation does not have to be so, after all. Not technically speaking. The Catholic Church, for instance, has officially accepted most of Genesis as being a fairy tale. Or at least "metaphorical".
Some would even say that believing in the divinity of Jesus is not even a requirement to being a Christian. Strange, I know, but yeah. Those people existed. More recently than pre-Niccea too, though there seemed to be quite a few groups who didn't believe Jesus to be the literal divine son of god back then.
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Post by demonnachos on Oct 19, 2015 5:22:50 GMT
My little brother thinks the 7-headed and 10-horned red dragon is some kind of metaphor for corporations.... He was never the sharpest crayon in the juicebox, but that is dumb even by his standards.
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Post by Canuovea on Oct 19, 2015 5:55:18 GMT
Wait, what?
Really?
I mean, people are saying that the beast with the Iron teeth from Daniel was Rome. That is... weird, though it makes some sense... even if Rome has been out of the picture somewhat for the last 600 years. And Daniel is clearly a pseudopagrifica written during the life of Antiochus the... 5th? 6th? 7th? I dunno... rather than in the time of Daniel.
But that is a bit much.
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Post by demonnachos on Oct 19, 2015 6:03:18 GMT
I couldn't figure it out myself. It really doesn't make any sense, especially since that dragon gets locked up fro 1,000 years and then occasionally let out. His pastor must have stuffed that gem into his brain.
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Post by Canuovea on Oct 19, 2015 6:41:54 GMT
No no, don't you see? Carthage was really mercantile and greedy... then they got shut down. Then, roughly 1000 years later, rather roughly, we begin to see the rise of mercantile Europe... Oh my god... this is the most convincing prophesy ever!
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Post by demonnachos on Oct 19, 2015 7:01:20 GMT
The biggest failing one is the one about the city of Tyre being turned into rubble and sunk into the ocean. It failed in literally every possible way it could.
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Post by Canuovea on Oct 19, 2015 7:55:18 GMT
Daniel also claims that Antiochus #whatever was going to die at the gates of Jerusalem. He died raiding a temple. In Persia (I think). That was not related to the Jewish god at all.
You know what the kicker is? Despite this failure of prophesy... according to at least one Gospel... Jesus called Daniel a prophet. That is rather interesting.
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Post by demonnachos on Oct 19, 2015 9:47:50 GMT
The Revalations prophecies are HILARIOUS. "There will be wars and rumors of wars and famines in various places." That is pretty much every single day in human history.
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Post by Canuovea on Oct 19, 2015 10:19:29 GMT
Pretty much any religion or prophesy about the end times, or bad shit generally, that involves people "behaving badly" will pretty much always be near the end of days.
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Post by demonnachos on Oct 19, 2015 10:34:25 GMT
It is most hilarious the bible claims Jesus said he would be back within a generation.... about 20 some generations ago.
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Post by demonnachos on Oct 19, 2015 13:04:52 GMT
Something else I just had pointed out to me. From Egypt to Canaan is only about a 280 miles journey. If there were 600,000 Israelite slaves migrating and they traveled single file with 1 meter spacing, if they followed the coastline the first travelers would arrive before many others would have even left. A 2 week trip with god's divine guidance took 40 years to make.
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Post by Canuovea on Oct 19, 2015 17:41:51 GMT
Back before the generation of his time passes was, I think, the phrasing. Well, in English.
But you're wrong about the 40 years in the desert. They actually got to Canaan really rather quickly, they just didn't have enough faith to invade it because they were terrified of the big strong people there. As a result god got angry at them and refused to let them leave the desert until that entire generation had died out and there was a new, more faithful, generation.
Edit: not saying it actually happened, but the Bible explains why it took so long "if" it did.
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Post by demonnachos on Oct 20, 2015 5:22:05 GMT
If you count all the people traveling with them, wasn't their number around 2.5 million (despite the area only having a total population around 3 million)?
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Post by Canuovea on Oct 20, 2015 5:32:09 GMT
Literally the only way they'd be able to actually feed that many people would be if manna did in fact fall from the sky.
Though there isn't really any evidence of the Israelites being captive in Egypt either.
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Post by demonnachos on Oct 20, 2015 5:41:09 GMT
Nor any mass migration. Nothing in Exodus has any actual evidence.
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