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Post by Canuovea on Oct 17, 2018 18:46:48 GMT
Well, now I look like an absolute idiot.
They're adding bloodlines. You can get all five bloodline style lords.
And we've gotten Felheart, something I'm less surprised by.
The Bloodline Lords are just cobbled together assets from other stuff, no new models, but I mean... that's mostly fine. The Lahmian is a recoloured Female Vampire hero. The Necrarch probably looks the worst of the lot. But overall new mechanics and such before new models makes sense to me.
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Post by Harkovast on Oct 17, 2018 19:57:31 GMT
Don't think of it as you looking dumb...think of it as me looking smart! Though I must admit, I just kinda threw it out there, I didn't think it would really happen!+
I am okay with reused assets for the vampire blood lines. After all, these faction enhancements are pretty low resource. Von Carstein bloodline can get you ranged units of human minions! I wonder what other crazy shit these guys unlock?
I also expected Felheart, he works with black arcs and they just got a huge update.
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Post by Canuovea on Oct 17, 2018 20:27:25 GMT
Yeah, it was a clever prediction.
Fellheart just made sense. I want to laugh at the Malus fans! Hahahaha! Silly Malus fans! You LOSE! Erm... ahem. Uh, erm. Sorry.
As for the Bloodlines, its kinda about expectations. I'm fine with what has been done because I don't have pie in the sky expectations, I'm just impressed that we're getting bloodlines at all. Another friend of mine is absolutely livid about it, saying this is the worst FLC ever done. Though to be fair, he knows a lot more about lore than I do and quite likes the Vampire Counts. But for once I think the forums are mostly being reasonable. Why? Because there are like two people being absolute jackasses on the forum and everyone else realizes how fucked this is so they're being relatively reasonable and nice.
Watching an overview of em. Apparently a lot of this is faction wide bonuses:
Lahmians: Hero upkeep reduction, vigor loss reduction, and campaign line of sight stuff.
Oookay, so the Von Carstein Bloodline allows you to bring crossbowmen and handgunners... in a limited amount. Crossbows first and if you recruit three Von Carstein Lords then that's how you get the handgunners. Public order bonuses and casualty replenishment rate as well.
Blood Dragon: Beast in melee of course, dual swords. Level 1 improves cavalry. Level 2 adds experience gain. Level 3 immunity to untainted attrition.
Necrarch reduces upkeep, increases research speed, and magic stuff.
Strigoi doesn't need the DLC. Ambush improvements, PO stuff, and +5 corruption stuff.
Generic Vampire Lords are still around. Not sure what I think of that, but hey, choice right?
"In the future, everyone is going to get some extra time and new cool stuff for them"... Oooooooh. Specifically mentioned Empire and Greenskins.
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Post by Harkovast on Oct 17, 2018 20:36:12 GMT
I agree, this is more than we expected for vampire blood lines. Expecting even MORE is setting up for disappointment.
As I understand it, these guys are bad ass masters of their bloodlines being awoken from their coffins. The generic lords are lesser members of those blood lines who don't get additional bloodlines powers. So I think it makes sense. vampires further down the family tree tend to get weaker, so regular lords have more "diluted" blood and don't get all the powers of their ancestors.
I am pretty sure one of the guys going crazy is Estalian angel man under a new name. He started talking about araby muslims being pushed by SJWs and kinda tipped his hand!
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Post by Canuovea on Oct 17, 2018 20:52:53 GMT
I suppose that makes sense.
Equix? I dunno, this fellow seemed to have better grammar, if only by a bit. Also, he's banned now too.
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Post by Harkovast on Oct 17, 2018 21:09:48 GMT
Bringing up Araby out of no where and complaining about them being muslims (even though they obviously aren't) is a very specific weird thing to do. I'm sure its the same freak!
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Post by Canuovea on Oct 17, 2018 21:12:36 GMT
Oh boy.
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Post by Harkovast on Oct 18, 2018 17:08:44 GMT
People were claiming Direfin is broken becuase she has made them lose their minds...but I think Noctilus sounds like a power house. He regenerates AND he's unbreakable. That sounds like a brutal combination!
I'm also pleased Kemmler has his own start, as well as his own horse. He's the original warhammer character! He shouldn't be second fiddle to Manfred!
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Post by Harkovast on Oct 18, 2018 19:26:02 GMT
I like the idea of normal vampire lords being lesser ones, where the vampire blood has been watered down over time. So the strigoi empire and necrarch brotherhoods are only minor facitons because all the mighty vampires of those lines have left or been killed, leaving weaker ones to rule the remains of their empires. Of course, lesser vampires are still bad ass.
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Post by Harkovast on Oct 18, 2018 22:05:11 GMT
This update has been good news for some... but bad news for others....
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Post by Canuovea on Oct 19, 2018 19:00:56 GMT
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Post by Harkovast on Oct 19, 2018 19:25:06 GMT
I like that Barrow legion get the thing on the end of his staff as their symbol. That's really cool.
So are you happy with the new update/dlc after all? You didn't get what you wished for, but is this good enough to make up for it?
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Post by Canuovea on Oct 19, 2018 20:00:46 GMT
I'm more interested in the FLC. It looks like a good addition but I'm not sure how keen I'll be on it all until I actually play the VP.
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Post by Harkovast on Oct 19, 2018 20:21:25 GMT
Dont you want to talk like a pirate? Talknig like a pirate is awesome!
Argh! THAT IT BE!
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Post by Harkovast on Oct 19, 2018 20:50:01 GMT
So you arne't that hyped for vampire coast? I think its goign to raelly mix things up, making the sea a much more dangeorus and interesting area.
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