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Post by Harkovast on Sept 8, 2018 22:10:41 GMT
Black Panthers key things are that hes king of secret african nation. You could have the people in that nation be white. His name refers to his suit and the panther that is his symbol, not his skin colour.
Again, you SHOULD NOT do that. It's stupid to change him, I'm just saying if you really wnated to you could makeup a reason, just like I could for pretty much any character.
And yeah Harkovast would be racist as fuck to the woke crowd unfortunately, culturally appropriated as all hell. So would Weird Britannia be as well, as I've mentioned before. Metaphors for racial struggles? Not cool! That's erasing the struggles of real minorities.
I'm like super hilter at this point.
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Post by Harkovast on Sept 8, 2018 22:13:11 GMT
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Post by StyxD on Feb 20, 2019 22:59:58 GMT
I found this story fascinating: https://www.reddit.com/r/rpghorrorstories/comments/arrrda/how_a_sexuallydepraved_narcissist_almost_made_me/Not because the murderhobo in question did something in character that wouldn't be expected of that kind of a player, but because of the bona fide sociopathic manipulation he subjected the poor GM to, just to get his imaginary reward of raping NPCs to his heart content in the game! I've long been wondering what it is that makes RPGs able to affect people emotionally so much, and why players tend to stay in games that make them miserable, as if they were abusive relationships or something. This story just made me realize the rabbit hole goes even deeper. On a more humorous note, if you look at the subreddit right now, "The Bruce" stories took it by storm. This guy is really something of a real-life supervillain who got his powers by being bitten by a radioactive FATAL handbook.
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Post by Harkovast on Feb 21, 2019 0:32:53 GMT
Sorry but if you let a guy start raping the NPC's, then its your own dumb fault.
Bruce just makes demands and the GM and everyone else gives in.
The Gm kept letting him make every drow into a sex slave?
The GM has literally omnipotent power in the game this guy still ends up being made the players bitch.
He could literally have said "Bruce, you shit your pants till you die." and thats what would have happened. I dont understand this wierd obsession with trying to impress Bruce and gain his approval.
This guy sounds like I'd be sick of him after one conversation.
HAHHAHA HE SAT IN THE CORNER WATCHING PORN! They are all hero worshipping and trying to impress the guy getting off in the corner to japanese sex cartoons!
If someone told me to do "moose horns" when talking out of character I would laugh and say "no but seriously..." and then if they were serious I would tell them to fuck off.
We need to do another discord chat....I didn't tell you all my stories....
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Post by Canuovea on Feb 21, 2019 1:27:29 GMT
People doing something for the first time, especially at that age, can be easily manipulated by assholes like that. Sure, what you say is true, but in order to take advantage of it you have to know that. The poster even says that he'd basically have just kicked the guy out if something like that happened now.
And you also have a very specific style of GMing yourself, Hark. The GM really is god in that situation, but when there are rules that tends to limit the GM somewhat. Or at least, people sometimes think that being a good GM means you must be limited because of those rules.
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Post by TempestFennac on Feb 21, 2019 5:34:31 GMT
I'll admit that I agree with that stance due to being very gamist (if the DM is ignoring rules because it suits whatever they want to do it sucks the fun out of it for me).
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Post by Canuovea on Feb 21, 2019 5:42:25 GMT
Yeah, so when you are an up and coming GM who is uncertain about your abilities and a bit insecure, people can take advantage of that.
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Post by Horsie on Feb 21, 2019 7:18:36 GMT
Gonna have to read this after work Friday morning. Or Thursday evening if they cancel the shift (fingers crossed).
Looking forward to hearing more of your RP horror stories Hark, you promised some good ones a while ago. Just remember I'm only free on weekends.
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Post by Harkovast on Feb 21, 2019 8:01:56 GMT
But this guy broke the rules himself all the time. In one story he declares all horses die one hit because "realism" and contrived ridiculous situations to fuck over the players so he could laugh at them.
What I find weird is that he seemed to have everyone present going along with him. Every is showing up week after week to watch some blubbering porn addict cry until he gets to act out a rape fantasy. Just from a selfish point of view, you would think the other players would stop taking part since the GM basically derailed the game in order to feed one guys ego.
And the fact he starts every session sat in the corner watching porn cartoons...I mean there comes a point where I lose sympathy for people! They all just accepted this?
I can't figure why no one just said "This game is shit" at any point. Its like they all act as if they have to play, like its their food or something.
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Post by Canuovea on Feb 21, 2019 8:14:20 GMT
They weren't all the same players. The one hit horse story was from someone else than the "I was a new GM and..."
Apparently a lot of them were this guy's friends and put up with it... until they eventually had enough. Apparently nobody will play with the guy now.
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Post by StyxD on Feb 21, 2019 16:23:36 GMT
I dont understand this wierd obsession with trying to impress Bruce and gain his approval. Since I'm a nerd who read all the stories, I'll answer honestly. Bruce was already an established GM in the community and the OP was trying his hand for the first time. Obviously he wanted approval from the experienced guy. As how the hell Bruce got the respect: well, apparently he was a really good GM, and would only bully some people (another classic narcissist tool) and cause scenes some of the time, so there were enough people in the community tolerating him and considering him good. Also, apparently Bruce convinced the newbie that his behavior was normal, because there weren't enough abusive relationship analogues here. He could literally have said "Bruce, you shit your pants till you die." and thats what would have happened. Come on Hark, have you never experienced what would really happen then? The player would angrily contest the ruling, demand it be rolled back, and then the socially awkward GM would have a scene in his living room. GM has absolute power in the game, but it does not extend to his social power within the group. If you're afraid to anger a person because of their emotional manipulation, you're not just going to use GM powers to curb that same person in the game you ostensibly control. Also, randomly killing PCs makes you a bad GM, and people want to be good GMs, see? I can't figure why no one just said "This game is shit" at any point. Its like they all act as if they have to play, like its their food or something. Ah, now you get it, Hark. This happens over and over again. You may consider the other players here are just being silly billies, but I was once in such a game. If someone says "I should have quit back then but didn't somehow", I completely believe them. That game might still be affecting the way I play (really dragging out talky scenes, for example, not that anyone seems to mind). At the same time, I don't actually get why this happens! What it is about RPGs that entraps people so much. It seems like ending a game is the simplest thing; not like a bad GM or player have power over you in other areas of life. But something is clearly fishy here. This story struck me because Bruce seemed to actively manipulate other people to let him get away with everything. Most creepy situations in RPs seem to instead be caused by antisocial weirdos who genuinely believe it's what their character would do.
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Post by Harkovast on Feb 21, 2019 17:31:09 GMT
I kinda think the original poster had a crush on Bruce. He mentioned being bisexual and the whole thing reads like some weird toxic romance. That's why the idea of Bruce not wanting to play was so intolerable and why getting Bruces approval was the whole point of everything. They mentioned being bisexual, so I think they got the hots for the guy. People dont normally get this obsessed with the approval of some weirdo at a games club. It makes everything that was happening make a lot more sense to me when I look at it that way.
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Post by StyxD on Feb 21, 2019 18:01:17 GMT
Why do you think there has to be some super secret deeper level to what happened in that story?
I've just said I've seen stuff like this personally (well, not to that magnitude). The whole subreddit is full of stories like this. Do you really think all those people also had crushes on their shitty GMs?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like you've played with friends all your life and didn't encounter this sort of toxic group dynamics.
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Post by Canuovea on Feb 21, 2019 18:35:08 GMT
I mean, I guess it is possible he had a crush on the guy. I dunno. But it doesn't seem likely. That kind of crap can happen without wanting to fuck the guy. Abusive relationships aren't necessarily sexual and just because someone is bi doesn't mean they're going to want to fuck someone they also want to impress.
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Post by wordweaver3 on Feb 21, 2019 19:28:05 GMT
I think a lot of gamers are under the impression that there aren't a lot of people out there to game with, so when they find a group they're a bit hesitant to do anything that might break the group up. The thought being they feel lucky to have even found a group.
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